Today’s post is a response to another inquiry from a reader. Actually, from multiple readers. One particular reader, who has instructed us to identify her as Crystal, asked us:
You have to know that churches use stories like yours to tell sexually active gay people they have to be sexually abstinent. How do you deal with that? Do you ever think you shouldn’t tell your story because it isn’t the same as other gay people’s experiences and not all gay couples are celibate like you? You say you don’t have an agenda besides talking about your experience of celibacy and other things, but aren’t you playing into an agenda by telling your stories even though that’s not what you wanted?
From the beginning of our blogging adventure — even from day one — we’ve received regular questions about our “agenda.” Sometimes, it’s about “the gay agenda.” Other times, it’s about “the agenda of the religious right.” On occasion, we’ve receive emails within hours of each other suggesting that we are promoting both. But over the past few weeks, we’ve begun to see a different phrase popping up when folks contact us with these types of questions. More and more, people are asking us directly about the “celibate gay agenda.”
Like many of our LGBT friends, when someone in real life accuses us of having a hidden “gay agenda,” we’re tempted to offer a semi-snarky rundown of our daily activities to demonstrate the point that our lives don’t look much different from those of straight people: “Today, my gay agenda is to wake up, go to the gym, take a shower, go to work, come home, have dinner, and go to sleep.” Most likely, you’ve heard something like this before. It’s a half-joking, half-frustrated response to the assumption that somehow, all gay people everywhere are part of an intricate plot to take over society. We have to admit, some of the questions we get about the supposed celibate gay agenda evoke the same frustrations. At the same time, we’re well aware of how agenda-driven conversations about LGBT people and the Church have become, and it’s probably best to share some candid thoughts on where we stand relative to people’s perceptions of the hidden motives of LGBT celibates.
Let’s start by taking Crystal’s questions one by one. First she asks, “You have to know that churches use stories like yours to tell sexually active gay people they have to be sexually abstinent. How do you deal with that?” Yes, we do know that. We deal with it by speaking out publicly against it. There’s a level at which we can’t control how others use our story. We put it out there to the internet, and we lose control over what people have to say about it. That’s a reality of blogging, and we were jolted into it very quickly. But from time to time, we do get to see how people use our thoughts on certain topics in their interactions with LGBT acquaintances, friends, and family members. In most of these instances it’s positive. But anytime we hear of someone telling a non-celibate LGBT person, “Celibacy is possible. It’s not that hard. Just look at Sarah and Lindsey at A Queer Calling,” we try to shift the conversation to the real issues at hand. We remind people that the purpose of our blog is to interact with others interested in discussing LGBT celibacy — not to suggest that celibacy is easy, and not to hold ourselves up as examples for the entire LGBT community. We encourage readers who find our writing helpful to use it for fostering productive conversation — not for hitting someone over the head with a frying pan.
Crystal then asks, “Do you ever think you shouldn’t tell your story because it isn’t the same as other gay people’s experiences and not all gay couples are celibate like you?” No. We don’t ever think this. Because we believe all people’s stories are worthy of being told and heard, we figure that includes ours as much as anyone else’s. We see no logical reason to silence ourselves. We also believe that it’s possible to learn something from everyone, so wouldn’t want to see other LGBT stories silenced, even if those stories have very little in common with ours and even if we disagree with the theological opinions of the people who tell them. The possibility that one’s story might be used against others is a poor reason not to tell it. As we said above, we can’t always control what people say about us or how they use the content we publish here. We do have a responsibility to be fair to others when sharing our experiences, and we feel respected when other bloggers with experiences different from ours acknowledge that celibate LGBT Christians exist and do their best to be fair to us.
Crystal’s last question is the one that encapsulates many others we’ve received from readers recently: “You say you don’t have an agenda besides talking about your experience of celibacy and other things, but aren’t you playing into an agenda by telling your stories even though that’s not what you wanted?” We don’t think so. We don’t have any intention of becoming someone’s pawns. We are the owners of our story. No one else is: not other members of our Christian tradition, not the larger group of celibate LGBT voices, not the broader LGBT Christian community — nobody. And we don’t own other people’s stories either. Anyone can start a blog. It’s not that difficult. When we launched ours, we anticipated having maybe 20 regular readers, mostly friends. We never dreamed that so many people would be interested in our perspectives. A Queer Calling came to be at a time when we felt a need for more meaningful interaction with other people on topics such as celibacy, vocation, spirituality, and LGBT Christian issues. It began as a project to help us explore where God is calling us, and to give us something new to enjoy together during Lindsey’s period of unemployment. We write because we see celibacy as an important topic that far too many people dismiss as old-fashioned, oppressive, and indicative of a lack of self-acceptance. And that’s all. Playing into a larger agenda would require our consent on some level. We haven’t given it, and feel free to share this post with anyone who may be unaware of this.
If you see our story as dangerous in one way or another, trust us, you’re not alone. Those sorts of assertions fill our inbox every day. We can understand why people with a variety of theological positions and life experiences might feel uneasy about our writing. We hear that most often, though not exclusively, from people with progressive sexual ethics. To those who see us in this way and perhaps believe that we shouldn’t be sharing our story, we have some questions for you. Have you ever thought about the broader LGBT Christian conversation’s overall impact on celibates and our places within our Christian traditions? Have you ever considered the possibility that the discussion (as it is now) about LGBT issues in Christianity could be making celibates less and less welcome in our church communities? Do you think it’s possible that non-celibate LGBT people aren’t the only ones fighting for the ability to be known and loved?
We’re going to be blunt for a moment: non-celibate LGBT Christians often argue that the stories of celibates make it harder for them and their families to feel safe at church, but many do not realize that this goes both ways. If you’re a non-celibate LGBT Christian, know that church folk are just as inclined to use your stories against us. As more moderate Christian traditions move toward accepting liberal approaches to sexual ethics, more conservative Christian traditions are refusing to acknowledge the existence of LGBT people in their parishes at all. Formerly-civil discussions about LGBT issues in conservative churches are now ending at, “Why can’t you just choose to be straight and get married or at least identify as SSA instead of gay? LGBT language has a liberal political agenda attached to it.” We fear the possibility that a time may be approaching when celibate LGBT Christians have only two options: 1) attend a church with a liberal sexual ethic where, in many cases, celibacy is frowned upon or misunderstood and celibates are not supported adequately; or, 2) attend a church with a conservative sexual ethic where celibates are expected to deny their sexual orientations or leave. So, to be fair, we’ll concede that in addition to simply “sharing our story,” our agenda also includes educating about the mere existence of celibate LGBT Christians in all kinds of traditions. As our weeks and months of blogging so far have passed, we’ve become aware of multiple instances where LGBT celibates in denominations with liberal, moderate, and conservative approaches have been made to feel unwelcome — all because we don’t fit the norm in any church environment.
To end today’s post, we offer these questions for our readers’ consideration. Is it really safe to assume that everyone involved in this conversation has an agenda that can be lumped into one of two categories that are polar opposites? How much more productive might our discussions be if we did not assume the worst about people we perceive to be on the “other side” of debates about LGBT issues in the Church? And finally, have we reached a point at which stories can’t stories just be stories?
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There is very much a desire by groups to make it exceedingly black and white. If you hold to a conservative sexual ethic (or are wrestling with it), you might get chastised, or accused of even worse, for supporting marriage equality or basic civil equality from a constitutional standpoint. It gets exhausting to always sense that you have a need to be on the defensive.
We can empathize with that concern. Black and white thinking tends to prevail over nuance in these conversations.
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Sarah and Lindsay: I had enough to say that I posted a full length response. I hope we can have an engaging conversation about it here, there or facebook, as the case may be.
http://womenintheology.org/2014/08/05/stories-are-never-just-stories-a-response-to-our-celibate-gay-agenda/
Hi Maria. Thank you for taking the time to address so thoroughly the issues we raised in this post, and raise on our blog in general. We’ve read your response and will write a response piece to you next week when we have a bit more time to do it well. Thanks for reading and taking us up on our open invitation for deeper discussion.
I truly hope you will keep telling your story. As much as I disagreed with Exodus International, it was a place where I could find other people like myself who were gay and yet celibate. Now that it is gone, I have nowhere to go to find people relate who share my experience except here and Spiritual Friendship. Stories do so much more than serve agendas. They let us breathe a sigh of relief that at last we are not alone.
About those who use the stories of celibate gay Christians to further an agenda against gay marriage or whatever, not only are they driving sexually active gay Christians away in disgust, such use of these stories also does severe damage to those of us who are celibate and gay.
Such use of these stories forces us into a relationship with God that is conditional. The message is clear that we are accepted by the Church only so long as we remain celibate. Heaven help us if we slip up! The love of God winds up being offered to us only as long as we qualify by remaining chaste rather than because of the cross of Christ. We are not truly being offered a place at the table. It is only rented to us on the condition we remain “sexually pure.”
Even worse, the story that conservative Christians present to the world is often far from the one we tell. I know that some of my acquaintances have used me as an example of a person who has “overcome homosexuality” and is “victorious!” They cut out all the parts about the excruciating loneliness, the battles with depression, the jealousy I often feel towards those who do have life partners. Those parts of my story don’t fit the story they want to hear and tell.
If Christians want to tell the story of celibate gay people then the least they could do is enter that story and be part of relieving the loneliness and depression with the fellowship of the Body of Christ. But too often I sense that I only exist to them when they have a gay family member they want me to “encourage” or when they are seeking some kind of advice on “converting a gay friend.” (even though they usually reject the advice I give which is “stop worrying about them being gay and just tell them about Jesus.”)
So to those who are hurt when the stories of celibate gay Christians are thrown in your face, please keep in mind that it is often not the story we are telling and that such use of our stories is taking the love of God away from us every bit as much as it is stealing it from you.
You said: “But too often I sense that I only exist to them when they have a gay family member they want me to ‘encourage’ or when they are seeking some kind of advice on ‘converting a gay friend.’ (even though they usually reject the advice I give which is ‘stop worrying about them being gay and just tell them about Jesus.’)”
Gosh, can we *ever* relate to this. We get so many emails and so many in-person requests to help people “convince” their gay friends and relatives to be celibate. You know, that’s really not our job. When people ask us to do this, we *always* say no, without qualification. If a person is interested in living a life of celibacy either as a single or in a context like ours, we are more than glad to talk with him or her. But we are adamant about never using celibacy as a frying pan for beating someone over the head. What’s interesting is that straight people who want their gay friends and relatives to become celibate *do* use our stories as frying pans pretty frequently. And this needs to change. This has to change, or there will never be a positive vision of LGBT celibacy. We hope that by continuing to tell our story in a different kind of way than approaches we’ve seen before, we can challenge others to stop with the frying pan and let our stories be ours instead of weapons for them to use against others.
Also, Matt, we are very sorry that you’re experiencing a lack of community. If you use our contact form to write us an email, we can tell you more about a great community for celibate LGBT Christians on the internet.
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“On occasion, we’ve receive emails within hours of each other suggesting that we are promoting both. ”
Ok, you just proved to me why, while I still doubt some of the psychology behind same-sex attraction and especially the rush to politicize homosexuality, I should be at least reading your blog.
Scratch that- BECAUSE of my doubts about same sex attraction in a country rushing to politicize homosexuality in a heterophobic way, I should be reading your blog.
This fact is a hugely good sign that you are on the right track.
Thanks for your encouragement, Theodore. We look forward to more meaningful conversations with you in the future.